The post-credit scene is pretty much the new norm for blockbuster movies. IT ends with the cackle of Pennywise the Dancing Clown, but director Andres Muschietti had a pretty good idea for a post-credit scene that he didn't end up shooting. As it turns out, the scene would have gone a long way in setting up IT Chapter Two, which hits theaters next week. Muschietti is fully aware of the expectations surrounding the sequel, but he seems confident that he has served Stephen King's source material well. There are SPOILERS for IT Chapter Two below, so read ahead at your own risk.
IT Chapter Two does not have a post-credit scene. The story is over. But that wasn't the case for the first movie and Andres Muschietti had the perfect idea to lay the foundation for the sequel. Many horror fans are perfectly content with the way the first installment comes to a close, but they may have preferred Muschietti's original idea. The director explains.
"Something a lot of people probably don't know is Chapter One did have the idea to make a post-credit scene, which was Beverly Marsh picking up the phone. So, 27 years later, post credit, you would see a phone ringing. It's an iPhone, so it's impossible that it's 1989, and a hand comes in and the camera wraps around this red-haired back of a head, and we turn around, and it's Jessica Chastain!"
While the post-credit scene would have probably been great, Andres Muschietti could not get his schedule to align with Jessica Chastain's. "We did all that we had to do to make sure that Jess was our Beverly, and then she was, so we got our wish," says Barbera Muschietti when talking about IT Chapter Two. While the brother and sister duo, along with Chastain, knew they were going to work together on the sequel practically from the start, fans did not know at first, but still thought the actress would be perfect to play the older version of Beverly.
In addition to the older versions of the Losers' Club, IT Chapter Two also features the original young cast. However, a decent amount of time had passed and the kids started growing up. Andres Muschietti and Barbara knew that the de-aging process was going to have to be used to keep the continuity going with the first installment. "De-aging was on the table very, very early on in the talks," says Muschietti.
Andres Muschietti previously teased the possibility of more stories around Pennywise coming out on the big screen after IT Chapter Two, noting there's a lot of mythology to be explored. Some horror fans may want to see the more of Pennywise and how he came to be, while others probably won't want to have anything to do with it since it would be veering from Stephen King's source material. With that being said, King is very fond of the work that Muschietti has done and could help out if further stories are meant to be told. The interview with Andres and Barbara Muschietti was originally conducted by the HuffPost.
Andy Muschietti's much-anticipated sequel “It Chapter Two” doesn’t just reunite the director with the talented cast of kiddos from his box office-busting first film, but it also brings back some of his notable below the line talent. That includes multi-faceted composer Benjamin Wallfisch, who scored the first film and is back for the second outing with 45 brand new tracks.
“Andy has created such an ambitious and extraordinary movie in ‘It Chapter Two,’ with incredible scope on every level,” Wallfisch said in an official statement. “One of our earliest discussions for the new score was how we could take what we did for the first movie and give it more scale and ambition — to reflect the scope of the film.”
Those tracks include two debuting exclusively on IndieWire in advance of the soundtrack’s release later this week. And, appropriately enough, one of those tracks is even called “Scary.”
Of the process behind creating so much new music, the composer explained, “We used a much larger orchestra and choir and also created several new themes; when we occasionally reprise moments from the first score, we re-recorded them with more complex and ambitious arrangements, like the music itself had gone through 27 years of maturing. … There was a lot more music required, which really allowed room for the original themes to develop and evolve in a way driven by the emotional complexity of how the Losers Club grapple with inner demons from the past and painful memories, and ultimately unite to confront their biggest fears.”
Teasingly, he added, “Pennywise is even more vengeful and flagrant this time, and the music had to also reflect that increased darkness, whilst never losing sight of the adventure and emotion that are at the core of the movie.”
Wallfisch recently worked on Neil Marshall’s “Hellboy,” Ted Mefli’s Best Picture nominee “Hidden Figures,” David F. Sandberg’s box office hits “Annabelle: Creation” and “Lights Out.” He recently received a Primetime Emmy nomination in the “Outstanding Music Composition for a Documentary Series or Special” category for his score for “Hostile Planet,” a six-part series for National Geographic.
The “It Chapter Two” Original Motion Picture Soundtrack will be available for streaming and digital purchase on Friday, August 30. Double LP vinyl with full album digital download, single LP colored vinyl, and Picture Disc vinyl versions are scheduled for release on December 6 and are now available for preorder.
Listen to both tracks below, exclusively on IndieWire. Warner Bros. will release “It Chapter Two” in theaters on Friday, September 6.
Andres Muschietti says there's more mythology to tell after IT Chapter Two. Whether or not that happens is an entirely different story. The highly anticipated sequel is now a little more than a week away and there are some pretty big expectations placed on the movie. The first installment is the highest grossing R-rated horror movie of all time and there is some pressure to get close to that success again. Luckily, it seems like they will easily be able to, according to early box office predictions.
IT Chapter Two writer Gary Dauberman was recently asked about the chances of a Pennywise spin-off, but he was against the idea. He maintained that they all wanted to be respectful to Stephen King's source material. However, Andres Muschietti might be interested in exploring the idea at some point. He explains.
"There is a whole mythology to the book. Mythology is something that always has opportunities to explore. It has been on Earth for millions of years. He's been in contact with humans for hundreds of years, every 27 years. So you can imagine the amount of material."
Is Andres Muschietti actively developing this idea for more Pennywise the Dancing Clown? While that idea sounds promising now, it will more than likely all depend on how well IT Chapter Two does at the box office. While the tracking is looking good, it would be a very bold maneuver to stray from Stephen King's source material, unless he is willing to help out. Muschietti had this to say.
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"It's always exciting to think of eventually exploring this mythology. It's very exciting. But, for now, there's nothing on the table."
As for IT Chapter Two being a hit at the box office, the stars of the movie really don't seem to care one way or another. "I feel zero pressure," claims Jessica Chastain, who stars as adult Beverly Marsh. She continued by saying, "This ain't my machine... I'm a peg. We're all a part of the machine, I'm like a screw in the machine." Bill Hader took a similar approach when asked about the success and says that pressure falls on the shoulders of someone else.
In addition to Bill Hader and Jessica Chastain, IT Chapter Two also stars Bill Skarsgard, James McAvoy, Jay Ryan, Isaiah Mustafa, James Ransone, Andy Bean, Teach Grant, Jess Weixler, Will Beinbrink, Xavier Dolan, Jaeden Lieberher, Sophia Lillis, Jeremy Ray Taylor, Finn Wolfhard, Chosen Jacobs, Jack Dylan Grazer, Wyatt Oleff, and Nicholas Hamilton. With the movie right around the corner, Stephen King fans are starting to get excited, especially knowing that King himself helped to write a brand-new scene that was not included in the book. King doesn't normally have anything to do with the big screen adaptations of his work, but he's really into what Andres Muschietti was able to pull off. The interview with Muschietti was originally conducted by io9.
Seeing the child and adult versions of the Losers’ Club members standing with each other is obviously cool, but what if It Chapter Two had featured horror director Guillermo del Toro? No, seriously. It’s an honest question posed by the film’s director, Andy Muschietti, who revealed during the official press junket that his colleague was originally supposed to appear in a brief sequence in the movie.
According to Slash Film, Muschietti explained that he is “very ambitious when it comes to cameos” and considers himself a pro at it. Sure enough, for those who were able to attend the film’s recent world premiere, It Chapter Two includes several cameos by familiar faces that, depending on general audiences’ knowledge of famous faces and author Stephen King’s expanding universe, will surely turn a few heads. Sadly, the del Toro gag just didn’t work out:
“I wanted Guillermo in the movie. Guillermo del Toro. We were this close. He was going to play the janitor that Ben runs into when he’s running away from Pennywise. Yeah. That scene, of course, would have been like five minutes longer if Guillermo was in it.”
Oh well. Fans will just have to imagine what del Toro’s brief or long? performance in the scene would have looked like. Seeing as how Muschietti has talked about putting together a massive director’s cut of both films, though, perhaps a day’s worth of pickups could accomplish his original intentions in the near future.
Guillermo del Toro is widely considered a modern master of the horror genre, so it would have been pretty neat to see the filmmaker pop up in an unexpected moment during what is arguably the year’s biggest horror release, “It Chapter Two.” Andy Muschietti recently confirmed to /Film he got very close to landing del Toro for a cameo appearance in the “It” sequel but timing just wasn’t on their side. Del Toro’s role would have been a janitor that young Ben Hanscomb Jeremy Ray Taylor runs into while running away from Pennywise in one of the film’s many flashback sequences.
“I'm very ambitious when it comes to cameos,” Muschietti said. “It's my best trait as a director. I wanted Guillermo in the movie. Guillermo del Toro. We were this close. He was going to play the janitor that Ben runs into when he's running away from Pennywise. Yeah. That scene, of course, would have been like five minutes longer if Guillermo was in it.”
Muschietti and del Toro are friends and former collaborators, as “The Shape of Water” director executive produced Muschietti’s feature directorial debut “Mama” in 2013. The horror movie was a feature adaptation of Muschietti’s 2008 short film of the same name. Jessica Chastain played the leading role in “Mama” and has reunited with Muschietti to play the adult version of Beverly in “It Chapter Two.”
One reason del Toro might not have had time to film his “It Chapter Two” cameo is because he’s in development on two directorial efforts: A stop-motion “Pinocchio” film for Netflix and a new adaptation of William Lindsay Gresham’s noir novel “Nightmare Alley.” Del Toro also continued to produce, with a credit on Scott Cooper’s upcoming horror film “Antlers.”
In his chat with /Film, Muschietti also touched on the film’s ginormous runtime. “It Chapter Two” has an official runtime of two hours and 49 minutes, making it one of the longest studio releases in recent memory and over 30 minutes longer than 2017’s “It.”
“Yes, there were lots of concerns about the length,” Muschietti said. “But we always had the motto of, if it feels long, then it is long. We watched it and — I've watched a lot of hour-and-a-half movies that feel like four hours. So if we're watching a movie that's two hours and forty minutes and it doesn't feel like that, that was our win.”
Warner Bros. is set to open “It Chapter Two” in theaters nationwide September 6.
It Chapter Two takes place 27 years after the events of It, the highest-grossing horror movie ever. Well, “mostly” takes place then. There are flashbacks to the young members of the Losers’ Club from the original film, played by Jaeden Martell, Sophia Lillis, Finn Wolfhard, Chosen Jacobs, Jeremy Ray Taylor, Jack Dylan Grazer, and Wyatt Oleff, cut with the grown-up cast, James McAvoy, Jessica Chastain, Bill Hader, Isaiah Mustafa, Jay Ryan, James Ransone, and Andy Bean. Everyone, minus McAvoy, came together at the It Chapter Two premiere on Monday, giving us this fun photo of all the Losers, together at last.
Here’s just the adults.
And just the kids.
That Bill Hader/Finn Wolfhard and Jessica Chastain/Sophia Lillis casting is A+.